I’M BLACK; YOU’RE WHITE–NOW WHAT? [Ep. 3] How does a biracial gay couple cope with life and bias?

Special Guest, Montague Simmons, is a professional community organizer and human rights activist. Take an intriguing peek behind the curtain in hotspots like Minneapolis, Louisville, and Grand Rapids with a man who has devoted his life to helping under-represented people represent themselves loud and clear.   Read More

Special guests, Johan Le Roux and Mzamo Moloi, join us from Cape Town and Johannesburg, South Africa, to discuss fatherhood and social justice after apartheid. What if our children's heroes have a different skin color? How should we prepare our children for a prejudiced world?   Read More

Special Guests, Makela Elvy and Briana Mitchell, founders of S'More Melanin, describe the "ah-ha" moment that inspired their collaboration to change the summer camp status quo of "being a speck of pepper in a sea of salt." Learn what the multicultural future of camp will be, as well as how you can help provide this amazing experience for more youth from more different backgrounds.   Read More

Guests John Leggette, St. Louis Metro Police Department, and Montague Simmons, human rights activist, debate the merits and practical considerations of #defundthepolice​. How can the US peacefully undo 30+ years of addressing social strife with a forceful police presence and mass incarceration? As Legette and Simmons explain, we need to commit to eliminating the root causes of crime, including unemployment, racism, lack of affordable housing, and low-quality education.   Read More

Reverend Dustin Ward explains Polite Racism, Whitewashing, and the painful irony of Christians dismissing racial reconciliation as "too political." He also describes the shattering consequences of putting scripture into practice. Jesus met with opposition when He advocated for social justice two millennia ago...and nothing has changed. Or has it?   Read More

Co-hosts David M. Conley and Chris Thurber reflect on lessons learned from their first nine episodes. From public servants to students, ministers to movement organizers, the discussions have been illuminating, controversial, raggedy, and inspiring. But what have David and Chris learned? Click play and decide whether you agree or disagree.   Read More

Hosts David and Chris discuss media coverage of Gabby Petito's murder. What responsibility do journalists and media corporations have to investigate and publicize crimes against people from traditionally under-represented groups? How do we, as media consumers, counteract the bias in who makes headlines?   Read More

Guest—Dr. Edward "Skip" Walton—has saved thousands of lives. Walton is a pediatric emergency physician, university professor, lieutenant commander in the Navy Reserve, and medical director at North Star Reach, a therapeutic camp that serves children with chronic illnesses. In this interview (conducted while  in post-exposure quarantine following several weeks of medical service with the Navy Reserve) Walton talks candidly to families like yours about viruses, summer camp, and the virtue of unselfishness.   Read More

The era of lightweight, check-the-box discussions about racism is history. Dr. Chris Thurber (clinical psychologist) and Mr. David Conley (communications consultant) use candor and empathy to fuel waves of change. This introduction to Season 1 lays the groundwork for the candid conversations in Episodes 2 through 15, featuring fascinating guests on the forefront of social justice.   Read More

Phillips Exeter Academy teacher and coach, Brandon Thomas, joins co-hosts David M. Conley and Dr. Chris Thurber to explain how race is perceived differently in China vs. the US and how classrooms can be crucibles for anti-black racism. Are international exchange programs part of the solution?   Read More