I’M BLACK; YOU’RE WHITE–NOW WHAT [Ep. 22] What’s the history of slavery in the North?

Special guest, Barbara Rimkunas, Co-Executive Director of the Exeter Historical Society, unveils stunning evidence of white New Hampshire residence owning Black slaves both before and after the Emancipation Proclamation. Hear why "Southerners owned slaves, but Northerners didn't" is an overgeneralization we need to confront and understand.

I’M BLACK; YOU’RE WHITE–NOW WHAT? [Ep. 20] How do Lenses, Mirrors, and Second Sight make us better?

Special guest, John Daves, Director of Community & Equity Affairs at St. Mark's School, discusses the identity lenses we look through, our willingness to look in the mirror, and the importance of "second sight"--the ability to see ourselves how others see us. Is this a triple threat for white people or other majority groups?  

I’M BLACK; YOU’RE WHITE–NOW WHAT? [Ep. 15] Meet your future president + a social rocket scientist.

Special guests Ken Mendis, Chair of the Racial Unity Team, and Joshua Conley, Mizzou student leader and 2060 POTUS, discuss what motivates people of all ages to be fight prejudice. You'll be stunned to learn why listening leads to more change than strident rhetoric. Click play for some fresh voices on race in America.  

I’M BLACK; YOU’RE WHITE–NOW WHAT? [Ep. 14] How can white people become anti-racists, really?

Co-hosts David M. Conley and Chris Thurber reveal surprising truths about the pinnacles and pitfalls of being an anti-racist. Social justice can save the world but depends on a sustained commitment to the raggedy work of taking initiative, listening to feedback, speaking your truth, and tolerating alternate views...all with civility.  

I’M BLACK; YOU’RE WHITE–NOW WHAT? [Ep. 13] How can we defund the police without creating chaos?

Guests John Leggette, St. Louis Metro Police Department, and Montague Simmons, human rights activist, debate the merits and practical considerations of #defundthepolice​. How can the US peacefully undo 30+ years of addressing social strife with a forceful police presence and mass incarceration? As Legette and Simmons explain, we need to commit to eliminating the root causes of crime, including unemployment, racism, lack of affordable housing, and low-quality education.