Author - Dacha Thurber

I’M BLACK; YOU’RE WHITE–NOW WHAT? [Ep. 15] Meet your future president + a social rocket scientist.

Special guests Ken Mendis, Chair of the Racial Unity Team, and Joshua Conley, Mizzou student leader and 2060 POTUS, discuss what motivates people of all ages to be fight prejudice. You'll be stunned to learn why listening leads to more change than strident rhetoric. Click play for some fresh voices on race in America.  

I’M BLACK; YOU’RE WHITE–NOW WHAT? [Ep. 14] How can white people become anti-racists, really?

Co-hosts David M. Conley and Chris Thurber reveal surprising truths about the pinnacles and pitfalls of being an anti-racist. Social justice can save the world but depends on a sustained commitment to the raggedy work of taking initiative, listening to feedback, speaking your truth, and tolerating alternate views...all with civility.  

I’M BLACK; YOU’RE WHITE–NOW WHAT? [Ep. 13] How can we defund the police without creating chaos?

Guests John Leggette, St. Louis Metro Police Department, and Montague Simmons, human rights activist, debate the merits and practical considerations of #defundthepolice​. How can the US peacefully undo 30+ years of addressing social strife with a forceful police presence and mass incarceration? As Legette and Simmons explain, we need to commit to eliminating the root causes of crime, including unemployment, racism, lack of affordable housing, and low-quality education.  

I’M BLACK; YOU’RE WHITE–NOW WHAT? [Ep. 11] What does the Bible teach us about social justice?

Reverend Dustin Ward explains Polite Racism, Whitewashing, and the painful irony of Christians dismissing racial reconciliation as "too political." He also describes the shattering consequences of putting scripture into practice. Jesus met with opposition when He advocated for social justice two millennia ago...and nothing has changed. Or has it?  

I’M BLACK; YOU’RE WHITE–NOW WHAT? [Ep. 10] Is protesting protesters a malicious political trick?

Co-hosts David M. Conley and Chris Thurber reflect on lessons learned from their first nine episodes. From public servants to students, ministers to movement organizers, the discussions have been illuminating, controversial, raggedy, and inspiring. But what have David and Chris learned? Click play and decide whether you agree or disagree.  

I’M BLACK; YOU’RE WHITE–NOW WHAT? [Ep. 9] Will most summer camps be lily white forever?

Special Guests, Makela Elvy and Briana Mitchell, founders of S'More Melanin, describe the "ah-ha" moment that inspired their collaboration to change the summer camp status quo of "being a speck of pepper in a sea of salt." Learn what the multicultural future of camp will be, as well as how you can help provide this amazing experience for more youth from more different backgrounds.  

I’M BLACK; YOU’RE WHITE–NOW WHAT? [Ep. 8] What’s really going on behind social justice movements?

Special Guest, Montague Simmons, is a professional community organizer and human rights activist. Take an intriguing peek behind the curtain in hotspots like Minneapolis, Louisville, and Grand Rapids with a man who has devoted his life to helping under-represented people represent themselves loud and clear.  

I’M BLACK; YOU’RE WHITE–NOW WHAT? [Ep. 7] What does systemic racism on campus look like right now?

Guests Jacob Conley, student at Boston Conservatory of Fine Arts, and Dacha Thurber, Phillips Exeter Academy ’20 discuss what systemic racism looks like on campus today. What’s with @blackat[____] Instagram accounts? Can one person represent an entire race? Will music and theater communicate better than posts and protests?  

I’M BLACK; YOU’RE WHITE–NOW WHAT? [Ep. 6] What is the real danger of public statues & monuments?

Guest Dr. Michael Bieze, Fine Arts Chair at Marist School, discusses the peril of public statues and monuments, when art is a political statement, designing an anti-racist curriculum, and why freedom of expression matters. Listen and decide whether a white educator really knows what a Black person experiences outside their local courthouse.