I’M BLACK; YOU’RE WHITE–NOW WHAT? [Ep. 15] Meet your future president + a social rocket scientist.

Guest Dr. Michael Bieze, Fine Arts Chair at Marist School, discusses the peril of public statues and monuments, when art is a political statement, designing an anti-racist curriculum, and why freedom of expression matters. Listen and decide whether a white educator really knows what a Black person experiences outside their local courthouse.   Read More

Guest—Jessica Lepler—Associate Professor of History at UNH and author of The Many Panics of 1837, explains why knowing—even bad news—is always better than not knowing. In 1837, the fact that American cotton growers and merchants did not know whether London banks had dropped the price of cotton led to anxiety akin to today's COVID-19 pandemic. President Trump's late responses, obfuscations, and ignorance have resulted in widespread not knowing and resultant feelings of panic.   Read More

The era of lightweight, check-the-box discussions about racism is history. Dr. Chris Thurber (clinical psychologist) and Mr. David Conley (communications consultant) use candor and empathy to fuel waves of change. This introduction to Season 1 lays the groundwork for the candid conversations in Episodes 2 through 15, featuring fascinating guests on the forefront of social justice.   Read More

Teacher, Andy Bigelow, and his husband, Brian Lighty, discuss the joys and complications of being a gay, mixed-race couple. How do public perceptions affect their private experiences? What social conventions are more "white," whereas others are more "Black"? How does this professional power duo navigate multiple stereotypes and prejudices while still maintaining a sense of humor? And how do they decide when to speak up about microaggressions and when to let them ride?   Read More

To kick off Season 2, hosts David and Chris reflect on Season 1 of IBYW and discuss summer camp staff training, making amends for unintentional microaggressions, cross-cultural fluency, and the state of the world after the tragic deaths of George Floyd, Ahmaud Arbery, Breonna Taylor, and others.   Read More

Special guest, Barbara Rimkunas, Co-Executive Director of the Exeter Historical Society, unveils stunning evidence of white New Hampshire residence owning Black slaves both before and after the Emancipation Proclamation. Hear why "Southerners owned slaves, but Northerners didn't" is an overgeneralization we need to confront and understand. Read More

Guests John Leggette, St. Louis Metro Police Department, and Montague Simmons, human rights activist, debate the merits and practical considerations of #defundthepolice​. How can the US peacefully undo 30+ years of addressing social strife with a forceful police presence and mass incarceration? As Legette and Simmons explain, we need to commit to eliminating the root causes of crime, including unemployment, racism, lack of affordable housing, and low-quality education.   Read More

St. Louis police detective, John Leggette discusses defunding the police, being a Black detective in a mixed-race city, the causes and consequences of violence, and how community policing can work to enhance law, order, and civility across the nation. Hosts David Conley and Chris Thurber also discuss institutional racism with Detective Leggette.   Read More

Special guests, Johan Le Roux and Mzamo Moloi, join us from Cape Town and Johannesburg, South Africa, to discuss fatherhood and social justice after apartheid. What if our children's heroes have a different skin color? How should we prepare our children for a prejudiced world?   Read More

Reverend Dustin Ward explains Polite Racism, Whitewashing, and the painful irony of Christians dismissing racial reconciliation as "too political." He also describes the shattering consequences of putting scripture into practice. Jesus met with opposition when He advocated for social justice two millennia ago...and nothing has changed. Or has it?   Read More