I’M BLACK; YOU’RE WHITE–NOW WHAT? [Ep. 8] What’s really going on behind social justice movements?

Hosts David and Chris discuss the Sept 23 violence against Haitian refugees at the US - Mexico border. How do images of this event portray American values to audiences on MSNBC, Fox News, and Al Jazeera? What do these grim echoes of America's history of slavery say about our social progress?   Read More

Guests John Leggette, St. Louis Metro Police Department, and Montague Simmons, human rights activist, debate the merits and practical considerations of #defundthepolice​. How can the US peacefully undo 30+ years of addressing social strife with a forceful police presence and mass incarceration? As Legette and Simmons explain, we need to commit to eliminating the root causes of crime, including unemployment, racism, lack of affordable housing, and low-quality education.   Read More

Special Guest, B. J. Walker, is an expert at understanding how government programs and services work. As the former director of Health & Human Services for the State of Georgia, she works tirelessly to support executives in public systems to move beyond the daily transactional work they do. Learn how Ms. Walker helps top leaders achieve their aspirational and transformational goals, even when racism threatens to derail them, as well as how the commercialization of... Read More

Special guests, Johan Le Roux and Mzamo Moloi, join us from Cape Town and Johannesburg, South Africa, to discuss fatherhood and social justice after apartheid. What if our children's heroes have a different skin color? How should we prepare our children for a prejudiced world?   Read More

St. Louis police detective, John Leggette discusses defunding the police, being a Black detective in a mixed-race city, the causes and consequences of violence, and how community policing can work to enhance law, order, and civility across the nation. Hosts David Conley and Chris Thurber also discuss institutional racism with Detective Leggette.   Read More

To kick off Season 2, hosts David and Chris reflect on Season 1 of IBYW and discuss summer camp staff training, making amends for unintentional microaggressions, cross-cultural fluency, and the state of the world after the tragic deaths of George Floyd, Ahmaud Arbery, Breonna Taylor, and others.   Read More

Guest—Bonnie Harris—author of When Your Kids Push Your Buttons—and What You Can Do About It, discusses what's really going on when parents flip out. It happens to all adults who work with children or who have their own kids—some minor misbehavior gets under your skin and inflames an old psychological wound or hidden sensitivity. In refreshingly plain language, Harris outlines her original, powerful method for gaining control over explosive emotional reactions.   Read More

Special guest, John Daves, Director of Community & Equity Affairs at St. Mark's School, discusses the identity lenses we look through, our willingness to look in the mirror, and the importance of "second sight"--the ability to see ourselves how others see us. Is this a triple threat for white people or other majority groups?   Read More

Phillips Exeter Academy teacher and coach, Brandon Thomas, joins co-hosts David M. Conley and Dr. Chris Thurber to explain how race is perceived differently in China vs. the US and how classrooms can be crucibles for anti-black racism. Are international exchange programs part of the solution?   Read More

Special guest, Barbara Rimkunas, Co-Executive Director of the Exeter Historical Society, unveils stunning evidence of white New Hampshire residence owning Black slaves both before and after the Emancipation Proclamation. Hear why "Southerners owned slaves, but Northerners didn't" is an overgeneralization we need to confront and understand. Read More