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July 14, 2022 | I’M BLACK; YOU’RE WHITE–NOW WHAT [Ep. 22] What’s the history of slavery in the North? Special guest, Barbara Rimkunas, Co-Executive Director of the Exeter Historical Society, unveils stunning evidence of white New Hampshire residence owning Black slaves both before and after the Emancipation Proclamation. Hear why “Southerners owned slaves, but Northerners didn’t” is an overgeneralization we need to confront and understand. Podcast: Play in new window | Download (Duration: 1:12:32 — 49.8MB) Subscribe: Apple Podcasts | RSS | More |
February 26, 2022 | I’M BLACK; YOU’RE WHITE–NOW WHAT? [Ep. 21] What if our kids’ heroes have a different skin color? Special guests, Johan Le Roux and Mzamo Moloi, join us from Cape Town and Johannesburg, South Africa, to discuss fatherhood and social justice after apartheid. What if our children’s heroes have a different skin color? How should we prepare our children for a prejudiced world?
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I’M BLACK; YOU’RE WHITE–NOW WHAT? [Ep. 20] How do Lenses, Mirrors, and Second Sight make us better? Special guest, John Daves, Director of Community & Equity Affairs at St. Mark’s School, discusses the identity lenses we look through, our willingness to look in the mirror, and the importance of “second sight”–the ability to see ourselves how others see us. Is this a triple threat for white people or other majority groups?
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I’M BLACK; YOU’RE WHITE–NOW WHAT? [Ep. 19] How did racism play out in the murder of Gabby Petito? Hosts David and Chris discuss media coverage of Gabby Petito’s murder. What responsibility do journalists and media corporations have to investigate and publicize crimes against people from traditionally under-represented groups? How do we, as media consumers, counteract the bias in who makes headlines?
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I’M BLACK; YOU’RE WHITE–NOW WHAT? [Ep. 18] What could stop violence at the US – Mexico border? Hosts David and Chris discuss the Sept 23 violence against Haitian refugees at the US – Mexico border. How do images of this event portray American values to audiences on MSNBC, Fox News, and Al Jazeera? What do these grim echoes of America’s history of slavery say about our social progress?
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I’M BLACK; YOU’RE WHITE–NOW WHAT? [Ep. 17] How can youth leaders inspire equity and justice? To kick off Season 2, hosts David and Chris reflect on Season 1 of IBYW and discuss summer camp staff training, making amends for unintentional microaggressions, cross-cultural fluency, and the state of the world after the tragic deaths of George Floyd, Ahmaud Arbery, Breonna Taylor, and others.
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November 19, 2020 | I’M BLACK; YOU’RE WHITE–NOW WHAT? [Ep. 15] Meet your future president + a social rocket scientist. Special guests Ken Mendis, Chair of the Racial Unity Team, and Joshua Conley, Mizzou student leader and 2060 POTUS, discuss what motivates people of all ages to be fight prejudice. You’ll be stunned to learn why listening leads to more change than strident rhetoric. Click play for some fresh voices on race in America.
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November 5, 2020 | I’M BLACK; YOU’RE WHITE–NOW WHAT? [Ep. 14] How can white people become anti-racists, really? Co-hosts David M. Conley and Chris Thurber reveal surprising truths about the pinnacles and pitfalls of being an anti-racist. Social justice can save the world but depends on a sustained commitment to the raggedy work of taking initiative, listening to feedback, speaking your truth, and tolerating alternate views…all with civility.
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October 29, 2020 | I’M BLACK; YOU’RE WHITE–NOW WHAT? [Ep. 13] How can we defund the police without creating chaos? Guests John Leggette, St. Louis Metro Police Department, and Montague Simmons, human rights activist, debate the merits and practical considerations of #defundthepolice. How can the US peacefully undo 30+ years of addressing social strife with a forceful police presence and mass incarceration? As Legette and Simmons explain, we need to commit to eliminating the root causes of crime, including unemployment, racism, lack of affordable housing, and low-quality education.
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October 22, 2020 | I’M BLACK; YOU’RE WHITE–NOW WHAT? [Ep. 12] How can travel and teenagers save the world? Phillips Exeter Academy teacher and coach, Brandon Thomas, joins co-hosts David M. Conley and Dr. Chris Thurber to explain how race is perceived differently in China vs. the US and how classrooms can be crucibles for anti-black racism. Are international exchange programs part of the solution?
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October 12, 2020 | I’M BLACK; YOU’RE WHITE–NOW WHAT? [Ep. 11] What does the Bible teach us about social justice? Reverend Dustin Ward explains Polite Racism, Whitewashing, and the painful irony of Christians dismissing racial reconciliation as “too political.” He also describes the shattering consequences of putting scripture into practice. Jesus met with opposition when He advocated for social justice two millennia ago…and nothing has changed. Or has it?
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I’M BLACK; YOU’RE WHITE–NOW WHAT? [Ep. 10] Is protesting protesters a malicious political trick? Co-hosts David M. Conley and Chris Thurber reflect on lessons learned from their first nine episodes. From public servants to students, ministers to movement organizers, the discussions have been illuminating, controversial, raggedy, and inspiring. But what have David and Chris learned? Click play and decide whether you agree or disagree.
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October 5, 2020 | I’M BLACK; YOU’RE WHITE–NOW WHAT? [Ep. 9] Will most summer camps be lily white forever? Special Guests, Makela Elvy and Briana Mitchell, founders of S’More Melanin, describe the “ah-ha” moment that inspired their collaboration to change the summer camp status quo of “being a speck of pepper in a sea of salt.” Learn what the multicultural future of camp will be, as well as how you can help provide this amazing experience for more youth from more different backgrounds.
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September 24, 2020 | I’M BLACK; YOU’RE WHITE–NOW WHAT? [Ep. 8] What’s really going on behind social justice movements? Special Guest, Montague Simmons, is a professional community organizer and human rights activist. Take an intriguing peek behind the curtain in hotspots like Minneapolis, Louisville, and Grand Rapids with a man who has devoted his life to helping under-represented people represent themselves loud and clear.
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September 17, 2020 | I’M BLACK; YOU’RE WHITE–NOW WHAT? [Ep. 7] What does systemic racism on campus look like right now? Guests Jacob Conley, student at Boston Conservatory of Fine Arts, and Dacha Thurber, Phillips Exeter Academy ’20 discuss what systemic racism looks like on campus today. What’s with @blackat[____] Instagram accounts? Can one person represent an entire race? Will music and theater communicate better than posts and protests?
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September 10, 2020 | I’M BLACK; YOU’RE WHITE–NOW WHAT? [Ep. 6] What is the real danger of public statues & monuments? Guest Dr. Michael Bieze, Fine Arts Chair at Marist School, discusses the peril of public statues and monuments, when art is a political statement, designing an anti-racist curriculum, and why freedom of expression matters. Listen and decide whether a white educator really knows what a Black person experiences outside their local courthouse.
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September 3, 2020 | I’M BLACK; YOU’RE WHITE–NOW WHAT? [Ep. 5] How can government systems truly support Black leaders? Special Guest, B. J. Walker, is an expert at understanding how government programs and services work. As the former director of Health & Human Services for the State of Georgia, she works tirelessly to support executives in public systems to move beyond the daily transactional work they do. Learn how Ms. Walker helps top leaders achieve their aspirational and transformational goals, even when racism threatens to derail them, as well as how the commercialization of public education is cannibalizing our schools. Podcast: Play in new window | Download (Duration: 1:12:53 — 66.7MB) Subscribe: Apple Podcasts | RSS | More |
August 27, 2020 | I’M BLACK; YOU’RE WHITE–NOW WHAT? [Ep. 4] What does it take for a minority ex-con to get a job? Special guest, Rev. James Winfrey, discusses the good work that he and his wife do with formerly incarcerated and formerly homeless persons. How do race and a history of incarceration or homelessness affect their experiences on Skid Row, the obstacles to accessing education, and their challenges finding work? What role does Urban Alchemy play in helping people learn social and emotional skills, tap into their character strengths, and live a better life? A profound look at the common core of human experience.
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August 20, 2020 | I’M BLACK; YOU’RE WHITE–NOW WHAT? [Ep. 3] How does a biracial gay couple cope with life and bias? Teacher, Andy Bigelow, and his husband, Brian Lighty, discuss the joys and complications of being a gay, mixed-race couple. How do public perceptions affect their private experiences? What social conventions are more “white,” whereas others are more “Black”? How does this professional power duo navigate multiple stereotypes and prejudices while still maintaining a sense of humor? And how do they decide when to speak up about microaggressions and when to let them ride?
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August 13, 2020 | I’M BLACK; YOU’RE WHITE–NOW WHAT? [Ep. 2] Does a Black detective want to defund the police? St. Louis police detective, John Leggette discusses defunding the police, being a Black detective in a mixed-race city, the causes and consequences of violence, and how community policing can work to enhance law, order, and civility across the nation. Hosts David Conley and Chris Thurber also discuss institutional racism with Detective Leggette.
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July 23, 2020 | I’M BLACK; YOU’RE WHITE–NOW WHAT? [Ep. 1] Is civil dialogue possible in a high-conflict culture? The era of lightweight, check-the-box discussions about racism is history. Dr. Chris Thurber (clinical psychologist) and Mr. David Conley (communications consultant) use candor and empathy to fuel waves of change. This introduction to Season 1 lays the groundwork for the candid conversations in Episodes 2 through 15, featuring fascinating guests on the forefront of social justice.
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May 17, 2020 | Viruses and the Virtue of Unselfishness [Guest: Skip Walton] [Coffee with Chris] Guest—Dr. Edward “Skip” Walton—has saved thousands of lives. Walton is a pediatric emergency physician, university professor, lieutenant commander in the Navy Reserve, and medical director at North Star Reach, a therapeutic camp that serves children with chronic illnesses. In this interview (conducted while in post-exposure quarantine following several weeks of medical service with the Navy Reserve) Walton talks candidly to families like yours about viruses, summer camp, and the virtue of unselfishness.
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March 23, 2020 | How the Government Creates Panic [Guest: Jessica Lepler] [Coffee with Chris] Guest—Jessica Lepler—Associate Professor of History at UNH and author of The Many Panics of 1837, explains why knowing—even bad news—is always better than not knowing. In 1837, the fact that American cotton growers and merchants did not know whether London banks had dropped the price of cotton led to anxiety akin to today’s COVID-19 pandemic. President Trump’s late responses, obfuscations, and ignorance have resulted in widespread not knowing and resultant feelings of panic.
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January 29, 2020 | When Your Kids Push Your Buttons [Guest: Bonnie Harris] [Coffee with Chris] Guest—Bonnie Harris—author of When Your Kids Push Your Buttons—and What You Can Do About It, discusses what’s really going on when parents flip out. It happens to all adults who work with children or who have their own kids—some minor misbehavior gets under your skin and inflames an old psychological wound or hidden sensitivity. In refreshingly plain language, Harris outlines her original, powerful method for gaining control over explosive emotional reactions.
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